The 2nd Panzer Division was formed on 15 October 1935 and was headquartered in Würzburg, Bavaria.
It was rebuilt once more and fought in the Battle of the Bulge (1944) and in the defence of the Rhine (1945), surrendering to US forces at war's end. It fought in Normandy and was almost completely destroyed in the Falaise Pocket (1944). After heavy losses on the Eastern Front it was sent to France for rehabilitation (1944). The division fought with Army Group Centre in the battles of Moscow (1941) and Kursk (1943). It took part in the Balkans campaign (1941) and then transferred to the Eastern Front in September 1941. An alliance was build in the end to break his neck, for Europes freedom.without Poland if I remember it correctly.The 2nd Panzer Division (English: 2nd Tank Division) was an armoured division in the German Army, the Heer, during World War II.Ĭreated as one of the original three German tank divisions in 1935, it was stationed in Austria after the Anschluss and then participated in the campaigns in Poland (1939) and France (1940) before it returned to Poland for occupation duties (1940–1941). Napoleon was a dictator who tried to conquer Europe. Rome didn't had the weapons Germany had.but if they had, do you think they wouldn't had used them? It's not so much a question of national pride but of historical context.įor example after Rome conquered Gaul, 1 in 4 Gauls got murdered/enslaved.īut today Rome has many admirers.what would the enslaved, murdered Gauls say about that? You can't leave your polish-centric viewpoint behind, that is understandable but that doesn't makes it true. But you did what you could (or you at least tried) with what you had.
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Or the Inkas about their genocide or.the Carthagians against Rome.history is full of brutality and mass murder, full scale destruction, enslavement of whole peoples and genocide.Īnd Poland never was in the position of a big power who had the means to the will to opress and conquer on the big scale.
No, the destructivity grew with the technology and the industrializations.įormer local wars became world wars with bombs who could kill thousands at once.but war is war!Īsk the Balkans what they think about the civilizations of their turkish opressors. Rubbish, we were in the position of Germany from 1400s to 1650s, thats a quarter of millenium of absolutely unchallenged power, the worst we did was mess up a few Moscow districts and abuse Ukrainians a bit. Personally i whole heartedly forgave Germany and hope for a better mutual future, sh*t happens, sometimes its big but you have to roll on but i will never ever accept any sort of rationalisation of what happened, any reason you might have had in the beginning was not reason enough in the end. You know? I could probably see your point despite all that, national pride is a big thing in Warsaw so why would Berlin be different, moral basis aside i could probably relate to something simple like getting satisfaction but i could never relate to moonscaping Warsaw, gassing a fifth of my people or having newborn children chucked out of death trains. You know i try, you should know best that i have mixed feelings about Germany, from one side i really admire your national potential but from the other i'd like Germany to be somewhere safe, like Australia.Īs for seeing things from someone elses perspective? First you took Polish lands, then after WW1 you lost them and started WW2 to take back the lands their previous owners won back from you 29 years earlier.
Try to see things in perspective before you go and judge something or somebody.
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